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03/30/2023 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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03:31:49 PM Start
03:32:40 PM Overview: Alaska State Defense Force|| Sb71
04:07:59 PM Adjourn
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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Presentation: Alaska Defense Force Overview
by Dr. Craig Christensen, Deputy Commissioner
Military and Veterans Affairs; Brigadier General
Simon Brown AK Defense Force; Angela Laflamme
Legislative Liaison, Department of Military and
Veterans Affairs
*+ SB 71 PAY FOR AK DEFENSE FORCE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         March 30, 2023                                                                                         
                           3:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Scott Kawasaki, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Matt Claman, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: ALASKA STATE DEFENSE FORCE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 71                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to pay for the Alaska State Defense Force; and                                                                 
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  71                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PAY FOR AK DEFENSE FORCE                                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/15/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/15/23       (S)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
03/30/23       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR. CRAIG CHRISTENSON, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                      
Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                                   
Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in  the overview of  the Alaska                                                             
State Defense Force and introduced SB 71.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER GENERAL SIMON BROWN                                                                                                   
Alaska Defense Force                                                                                                            
Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in  the overview of  the Alaska                                                             
State Defense Force and the introduction of SB 71.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:31:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  SCOTT KAWASAKI  called the  Senate State  Affairs Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:31  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were Senators  Claman,  Wielechowski,  Merrick, and  Chair                                                               
Kawasaki.  Senator  Bjorkman arrived  during  the  course of  the                                                               
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: ALASKA STATE DEFENSE FORCE                                                                                           
              OVERVIEW: ALASKA STATE DEFENSE FORCE                                                                          
                SB  71-PAY FOR AK DEFENSE FORCE                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 [The ASDF overview and SB 71 are listed at two separate agenda                                                                 
        items but they were conflated in this meeting.]                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:32:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI announced an overview  of the Alaska State Defense                                                               
Force.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:33:10 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:34:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI reconvened the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:34:30 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  CRAIG   CHRISTENSEN,  Deputy  Commissioner,   Department  of                                                               
Military  and  Veterans  Affairs (DMVA),  Joint  Base  Elmendorf-                                                               
Richardson,  Anchorage, Alaska,  began  the  presentation with  a                                                               
chart that shows the DMVA  organization. He pointed to the dotted                                                               
line within which  are the Air National Guard,  the Army National                                                               
Guard,  the Alaska  State  Defense Force,  and  the Alaska  Naval                                                               
Militia. They are  identified by statute as  the Alaska Organized                                                               
Militia and all but the  Alaska State Defense Force are federally                                                               
commissioned members of the United  States Armed Forces under the                                                               
Department of Defense (DoD).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The Alaska  State Defense Force  is a state organization  and the                                                               
members are volunteers.  When there is a  declared disaster, ASDF                                                               
members are called to state  active duty on paid status. However,                                                               
if they are called to state  active duty to do specific training,                                                               
they are called under unpaid status.  He noted that [SB 71] seeks                                                               
to change  this provision in statute.  If the bill were  to pass,                                                               
volunteer ASDF  members who are  called to state active  duty for                                                               
training would be called under paid status.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:36:43 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIGADIER  GENERAL  SIMON  BROWN,  Alaska  State  Defense  Force,                                                               
Department  of   Military  and   Veterans  Affairs,   Joint  Base                                                               
Elmendorf-Richardson, Anchorage,  Alaska, continued  the overview                                                               
of the Alaska  State Defense Force, speaking to the  motto of the                                                               
Alaska State Defense Force.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Closest to Home and Ready to Serve                                                                                         
     200+ Members in 23 Detachments across Alaska                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The Alaska  State Defense  Force (ASDF)  is established                                                                    
     under  AS  26.05.100  as  a  component  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Organized Militia, as a volunteer  force. Their role is                                                                    
     to  augment and  compliment the  Alaska National  Guard                                                                    
     and Alaska Naval Militia during state activations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER GENERAL BROWN turned to  slide 4 to discuss the mission                                                               
statement of the Alaska State Defense Force.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                            Mission                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The  Alaska  State   Defense  Force  collaborates  with                                                                    
     citizens,  communities, native  corporations, nonprofit                                                                    
     organizations,  and governmental  agencies to  train an                                                                    
     organized  state  military  reserve to  prepare,  plan,                                                                    
     respond, mitigate,  and recover  from natural  and man-                                                                    
     made disasters.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:38:08 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIGADIER GENERAL BROWN displayed the  picture on slide 5 of five                                                               
members  of the  Alaska  State  Defense Force  and  spoke to  the                                                               
following:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Membership consists of                                                                                                     
        • Current and former credentialed law enforcement                                                                       
          personnel members                                                                                                     
        • Civilian Professionals who enhance engineering,                                                                       
          HAZMAT,   cyber,    medical,   and   communication                                                                    
          operations                                                                                                            
        • Military veterans who enhance domain awareness,                                                                       
         survival skills, leadership, and adaptability                                                                          
        • Teammates with diverse educational backgrounds                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      All members are dedicated to the safety and security                                                                      
     of the communities and state they live in.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER GENERAL BROWN  turned to slide 6 that has  a picture of                                                               
Alaska State Defense  Force members carrying flags  down a street                                                               
as community  members follow. He  highlighted that  these members                                                               
train to support Alaska in the following ways.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • Community Outreach and Participation                                                                                     
     • Rural Alaska Resiliency Partnership                                                                                      
     • Emergency Response and Support                                                                                           
     • Support of Civil Authority                                                                                               
     • Domain Awareness                                                                                                         
     • Communications Operations                                                                                                
     • Medical Station Support                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:39:13 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIGADIER GENERAL BROWN advanced to slide 7 that has two                                                                        
pictures of ASDF members who responded to a community in need.                                                                  
He highlighted ASDF's recent responses:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • Typhoon Merbok (SEPT 2022)                                                                                               
     •  COVID-19 Pandemic (FEB 2020  DEC 2021)                                                                                  
     • Wildland Fire Season (Summer 2019)                                                                                       
     • South Central Earthquake (DEC 2018  FEB 2019)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER GENERAL BROWN continued to slide 8, "Valuable Assets                                                                  
to their Families, Communities, & Alaska."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Benefits to Members:                                                                                                     
     • Discipline                                                                                                               
     • Ethics                                                                                                                   
     • Pride in work, community, state                                                                                          
     • Health and welfare                                                                                                       
     •  Technical & educational skills                                                                                          
     • Networking Opportunities                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Benefits to Employers:                                                                                                   
     • Better trained employee                                                                                                  
     • Improved self-motivation                                                                                                 
     • Improved technical skills                                                                                                
     • Promotes working as a team                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Benefits to Community:                                                                                                   
      • Often "first on scene" in communities affected by                                                                       
      disasters because members stay in their communities                                                                       
      •  Incident Command trained members available during                                                                      
        emergency response                                                                                                      
         • May be more readily available to respond to                                                                          
        incidents that do not rise to the level of a state                                                                      
        emergency                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:41:00 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  CHRISTENSEN explained  that  when the  Alaska State  Defense                                                               
Force is  activated, the  members work  under the  National Guard                                                               
structure.  He described  the help  communities received  quickly                                                               
when  the Alaska  State Defense  Force was  activated to  respond                                                               
after Typhoon Merbok.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:42:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MERRICK  asked  whether  members  of  the  Alaska  State                                                               
Defense Force were authorized to carry weapons.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR.  CHRISTENSEN said  no, but  DMVA is  working on  a policy  to                                                               
allow  members to  carry  weapons if  they  have had  significant                                                               
training  and are  under  orders from  the  governor or  adjutant                                                               
general.  The  standards  would  be  the  same  as  Alaska  State                                                               
Troopers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MERRICK asked who covers the  cost if a member is injured                                                               
during training or while they're activated.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. CHRISTENSEN replied  that injuries would be  paid by Workers'                                                               
Compensation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MERRICK  referenced backup materials in  members' packets                                                               
and asked how  DMVA planned to recruit up to  300 people in rural                                                               
communities throughout Alaska that are not on the road system.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:45:14 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIGADIER  GENERAL BROWN  advised  that  several communities  had                                                               
already reached out  asking for a local  detachment. He continued                                                               
that DMVA  staff were currently  recruiting to  start detachments                                                               
in the communities  of Gambell and Savoonga. He  relayed his goal                                                               
to  establish  five-person  teams   in  as  many  communities  as                                                               
possible.  Each team  would have  a communications  specialist, a                                                               
domain  awareness specialists,  a person  with medical  training,                                                               
and a leader.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:45:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN joined the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MERRICK  asked him  to  follow  up  with the  number  of                                                               
responders to each of the disasters listed on slide 7.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. CHRISTENSEN  agreed to provide the  information. He continued                                                               
to  discuss the  expansion efforts  this year  in rural  areas to                                                               
increase awareness  and elicit interest in  ASDF. He acknowledged                                                               
that  the goal  of increasing  membership to  500 might  take two                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:47:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  asked what happens if  a member who has  not been                                                               
activated fails to follow an order.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER GENERAL  BROWN responded  that ASDF follows  the Alaska                                                               
Military  Code of  Justice,  but  there has  never  been an  ASDF                                                               
member who has  refused or indicated they didn't want  to do what                                                               
they were  asked to  do. Wanting  to help  others is  the ethical                                                               
background recruiters are looking for.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR.  CHRISTENSEN clarified  that ASDF  members are  volunteers so                                                               
they're asked  to help; what  they've found  is that when  a call                                                               
goes  out,   there  is  an   overwhelming  response   from  these                                                               
volunteers.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER GENERAL BROWN  said his organizational rule  is to look                                                               
at family needs  first, then whether the volunteer  is a civilian                                                               
employer, and finally the defense force.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:49:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN  wondered whether activating ASDF  members would                                                               
save money for the state.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR.  CHRISTENSEN said  he views  ASDF as  an insurance  policy to                                                               
ensure  that  somebody  is  going  to be  available  to  help  if                                                               
disaster strikes a community. DMVA  believes that the people best                                                               
suited to do  this work are the people who  live in the community                                                               
and are part of the ASDF.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER  GENERAL  BROWN  highlighted   that  the  Alaska  State                                                               
Defense Force  trained for  about 2,700 hours  last year  and the                                                               
time was all  volunteer. He said he believes that  it's a savings                                                               
to the state  to have trained people available to  respond in the                                                               
event of an emergency.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BJORKMAN referenced the zero  fiscal note [for SB 71] and                                                               
asked what the anticipated appropriation would be in the future.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. CHRISTENSEN responded  that DMVA is not  requesting any money                                                               
to cover  drill training.  DMVA is  seeking authorization  to pay                                                               
ASDF members who  are called to state active duty  to do specific                                                               
training. He  described the three-day  training to  operate water                                                               
purification systems that  can be moved into a  community in need                                                               
of clean  water as an  example of  the specific type  of training                                                               
for which  DMVA would like to  bring ASDF teams onto  paid active                                                               
duty. Bringing  a five-member  team to a  site for  that training                                                               
costs from $3,000 to $3,500.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:53:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BJORKMAN asked  what he  expects the  governor's request                                                               
for $2.5 million to be used for relative to SB 71.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR. CHRISTENSEN  returned attention to the  organization chart on                                                               
slide 2  and explained that part  of the $2.1 million  request is                                                               
to  stand  up ASDF  as  a  division  under the  Alaska  Organized                                                               
Militia. This  would involve training and  equipping the existing                                                               
200  members  and the  anticipated  300  additional members.  The                                                               
commander would serve  as the director of the  division, which is                                                               
the  existing model  for  the  Air National  Guard  and the  Army                                                               
National Guard.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  asked  Brigadier  General  Brown  if  he  was  a                                                               
volunteer.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER GENERAL BROWN nodded in the affirmative.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN asked who paid for his uniform.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER GENERAL BROWN said he paid for it.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN asked whether all the volunteers had uniforms.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER GENERAL BROWN said yes,  but cold weather survival gear                                                               
is in short  supply so part of the $2.1  million request would be                                                               
used for that equipment.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                SB  71-PAY FOR AK DEFENSE FORCE                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:58:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL NO. 71                                                               
"An Act relating  to pay for the Alaska State  Defense Force; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:58:38 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.   CRAIG  CHRISTENSEN,   Deputy  Commissioner   Department  of                                                               
Military  and  Veterans  Affairs (DMVA),  Joint  Base  Elmendorf-                                                               
Richardson, Anchorage,  Alaska, explained that SB  71 proposes to                                                               
amend  AS 26.05.260(i)  such  that members  of  the Alaska  State                                                               
Defense Force  will be  on paid active  duty status  for specific                                                               
training. In these specific circumstances,  ASDF members would be                                                               
paid the  same as other  members of the Alaska  Organized Militia                                                               
[and under  the same conditions  as provided for  state officials                                                               
and  employees  under  AS  39.20.110-39.20.170].  The  bill  also                                                               
removes the  last sentence in  subsection (i) that  prohibits pay                                                               
or allowances for ASDF members  for training or community service                                                               
activities.  He  cited the  example  that  was given  during  the                                                               
presentation about  ASDF members  traveling to  receive three-day                                                               
training  to learn  how to  operate a  mobile water  purification                                                               
system that  can be moved into  a community after a  disaster. He                                                               
continued that an official request  from a governmental agency to                                                               
help during  the upcoming  Arctic Winter Games  is an  example of                                                               
community service  work that would  be paid  if the bill  were to                                                               
pass.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section 1 of SB 71 read as follows:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 1. AS 26.05.260(i) is amended to read:                                                                           
     (i)  When active  state service  is  authorized by  the                                                                    
     governor or  by the adjutant general  as the governor's                                                                    
     designee,   members  of   the  organized   militia  are                                                                    
     entitled  to receive,  for each  day of  active service                                                                    
     under AS  26.05.070, allowances to the  same extent, in                                                                    
     the  same  manner, and  under  the  same conditions  as                                                                    
     provided  for state  officials and  employees under  AS                                                                    
     39.20.110 - 39.20.170. [HOWEVER,  PAY OR ALLOWANCES ARE                                                                    
     NOT  AUTHORIZED  FOR   TRAINING  OR  COMMUNITY  SERVICE                                                                    
     ACTIVITIES  OF  MEMBERS  OF THE  ALASKA  STATE  DEFENSE                                                                    
     FORCE.]                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:01:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI clarified  that AS 39.20.110 relates  to per diem,                                                               
mileage allowance, travel costs and  travel outside the state for                                                               
public officers and employees.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:01:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked whether SB  71 would authorize  the members                                                               
to be paid when they gather for two-day or quarterly trainings.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. CHRISTENSEN  answered yes, but  there is no intention  to pay                                                               
ASDF members for routine drill exercises.  The idea is to pay per                                                               
diem, travel costs,  and lodging when members are  brought on for                                                               
specific training.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:03:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK asked what the pay range is for ASDF members.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR.  CHRISTENSEN replied  that  the statute  provides that  state                                                               
active  duty pay  for  members of  the  Alaska Organized  Militia                                                               
follows the military pay scale. He  added that he didn't have the                                                               
pay scale roster  with him, but he could provide  examples of pay                                                               
for several different ranks.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MERRICK asked how a volunteer's rank is determined.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER  GENERAL  SIMON  BROWN   Alaska  State  Defense  Force,                                                               
Department  of   Military  and   Veterans  Affairs,   Joint  Base                                                               
Elmendorf-Richardson,  Anchorage,  Alaska,  explained  that  ASDF                                                               
rankings start  with private and  continue through  general, just                                                               
like the  Army. The ranking for  an individual is based  on their                                                               
time in service, military background, and experience.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR.  CHRISTENSEN  added  that  the  Alaska  State  Defense  Force                                                               
mirrors the  Army rank  structure, so someone  who leaves  the US                                                               
Armed Forces at a certain rank  would enter the ASDF at that same                                                               
rank. People who weren't in the  service but have a special skill                                                               
are given  an equivalent rank. If  not, they start at  the lowest                                                               
rank.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:04:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  opened public testimony  on SB 71;  finding none,                                                               
he closed public testimony.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN  questioned  the  reason  that  the  fiscal  note                                                               
indicates  no fiscal  impact when  the point  of the  bill is  to                                                               
periodically allow payment for training.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. CHRISTENSEN said the first  step is to receive authorization.                                                               
After  that, there  would  be a  budget  request for  significant                                                               
training, but  a lot of the  training would still be  absorbed in                                                               
the existing  budget, which is  $400,000. He didn't  anticipate a                                                               
request for additional funding specifically for SB 71.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:06:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI held SB 71 in committee for future consideration.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:07:59 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair Kawasaki adjourned the Senate State Affairs Standing                                                                      
Committee meeting at 4:07 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
02.14.23 Alaska State Defense Force Pay TL Senate.pdf SSTA 3/30/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB71 Additional Information Relating to ASDF 02.13.2023.pdf SSTA 3/30/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB71 Additional Information Relating to ASDF 02.13.2023.pdf SSTA 3/30/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB0071A.PDF SSTA 3/30/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB 71 Fiscal note.pdf SSTA 3/30/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
ASDF Presentation to Senate State Affairs Committee.pdf SSTA 3/30/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 71